Honda Reveals 2017 Civic Si Coupe and Sedan (205 HP / 192 LB-FT)

[rwmurrayvt]

Lighter, LSD, significant handling improvements, and a similar engine to the EX-T that gets over 240whp/300lb-ft tq with Vit tuning it. Chances are this car will have a better clutch and the larger CR-V turbo.

Everyone's bitching when they haven't even driven the car. Something tells me the tune you all are singing will change in the next 12-18 months.

Sponsored

 

[Inertiaman70]

The most interesting thing to me is the remote start with the 6MT.

What's really interesting is it was in the press release as quoted in the original post of this thread, but it's not (no longer?) listed here:
http://hondanews.com/honda-automobi...coupe-and-sedan-in-dynamic-global-debut-video

Same list, minus the remote start. Maybe it was an oops?

 

[Xyrex]

I just threw that out there, but you get the idea lol.

I agree with you though. When Honda decided to give the Americas the Type R I figured it would come at the expense of the Si. It would make a lot more sense from a business standpoint to offer the Si in the Hatch as well and just sell it globally like the Type R. Ford is doing the same with the ST and RS models of Focus. Having a not-quite-insane performance trim under something like the Type R makes sense, but Honda handled this in the oddest way possible.

 

[Xyrex]

So same engine? Just tuned...

May have a larger turbo. Nothing's known other than power figures.

 

[zx2down]

So same engine? Just tuned...

Probably just did like VW/Audi does. Swap out the turbo, tweak the tune, call it a day. I laugh at Audi prices since most the engines are just the same as a much cheaper GTI, with a different turbo, and 15-20K added to the price.

 

[dawsonj87]

I bet that guy in the video mentioned in the other thread feels like an idiot now for saying 230 horsepower

 

[b0j4ngl35]

It would make a lot more sense from a business standpoint to offer the Si in the Hatch as well and just sell it globally like the Type R.

If they'd offer the Si in hatchback form I'd probably be tempted to make a swap from my EX...as dumb a financial move as that would be. The sedan and coupe just aren't all that exciting to look at, and the added utility of having the hatchback makes it a no-brainer for me.

 

[zx2down]

Probably same as CRV just tuned to get 15/13 more hp/torque

Probably just re-tuned for 91+oct and maybe added a lb of boost or 2.

 

[Xyrex]

Hopefully a hatch si gets phased in later in this generation.

 

[NoelPR]

Lighter, LSD, significant handling improvements, and a similar engine to the EX-T that gets over 240whp/300lb-ft tq with Vit tuning it. Chances are this car will have a better clutch and the larger CR-V turbo.

Everyone's bitching when they haven't even driven the car. Something tells me the tune you all are singing will change in the next 12-18 months.

For me 290whp/350wtq from the 2.0lt everyone was expecting sound perfectly right to me.

 

[NorthernEX-T]

That's a big difference from just .5 liters more on the CTR

VTEC does wonders to boosted engines too

 

[NorthernEX-T]

Probably same as CRV just tuned to get 15/13 more hp/torque

Probably not far off the truth! CRV Si!

 

[NorthernEX-T]

Darn Eco Turbo 4 poppers... "savage geese quote"

 

[zx2down]

Lighter, LSD, significant handling improvements, and a similar engine to the EX-T that gets over 240whp/300lb-ft tq with Vit tuning it. Chances are this car will have a better clutch and the larger CR-V turbo.

Everyone's bitching when they haven't even driven the car. Something tells me the tune you all are singing will change in the next 12-18 months.

I believe its supposed to be lighter than the last Si, not than the current Civic. SO really the upgrades are just LSD, suspension, likely turbo upgrade. Really most people that modify will be swapping out parts of the suspension and the turbo anyway, so for them it', just the LSD they care about.

 

[duraz0rz]

I wonder how this will compare head-to-head with the Hyundai Elantra Sport. I'm keeping an eye out for my next daily driver and both the Hyundai and this are on my list. Although I'm tempted to get a GTI with a DSG and the safety features akin to the Honda Sensing stuff, I think a sedan will be a bit more practical for me.

Wonder if we can at least get some driver-assistance features like Forward Collision Warning, Collision Mitigation Braking System and LaneWatch on the Si.

Sponsored