Honda Reveals 2017 Civic Si Coupe and Sedan (205 HP / 192 LB-FT)

[zx2down]

Why are people acting disappointed when we knew this is what is was going to be. All everyone seems to care about is HP. The SI was never about HP. It has always been about driver engagement and chassis dynamics. Anyone can chuck a ton of HP into a car, but to make it work is another story. Acura offered the TSX with a V6 because people are stat sheet crazed and for the normal highway cruiser, yes the extra straight line power is nice, but as soon as you put the car into a corner, the car felt nose heavy and the I4 was much more enjoyable. It felt lighter on its feet and much more balanced. If you really need more power than look elsewhere

Because people were hoping to be surprised, and were not.

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[dmitri]

so the actual "reveal" to take place at the NY show, then

What do y'all think about it stating the Civic Si would have remote start? That'll be first manual with remote start.

I'm wondering why it's not mentioned in the press release... :-/

 

[asiandeity]

The most torque in an Civic SI ever.

 

[Xyrex]

They should just make a Si-R as their bread and butter "Super" Civic.

"What do you drive?"
"Why I drive a civic, SiR."
Maybe they'd need to think of a different name.

 

[NorthernEX-T]

They should just make a Si-R as their bread and butter "Super" Civic.

Might end up being called that in Canada, probably not, but that's how it was until 2004.

 

[NorthernEX-T]

Pretty much. But I'd personally opt for this solely for the limited slip dif.

Lotta money just for an LSD..

 

[b0j4ngl35]

Why are people acting disappointed when we knew this is what is was going to be. All everyone seems to care about is HP. The SI was never about HP. It has always been about driver engagement and chassis dynamics. Anyone can chuck a ton of HP into a car, but to make it work is another story. Acura offered the TSX with a V6 because people are stat sheet crazed and for the normal highway cruiser, yes the extra straight line power is nice, but as soon as you put the car into a corner, the car felt nose heavy and the I4 was much more enjoyable. It felt lighter on its feet and much more balanced. If you really need more power than look elsewhere

My opinion on this exactly. Driving an Si isn't about beating everyone else stoplight-to-stoplight, it's about the whole package and driving experience. As a fun, reliable daily for a driving enthusiast, the Si is perfect, and I think that's exactly what it's supposed to be. The Type R on the other hand...

 

[slayerx02]

A Fit Si should be competing with the Fiesta ST, not the Civic.

Yeah, if only that could be the case, but developing and making the factory tooling to make a low volume trim level of a car that already sells really well would just not make sense for Honda to do, business wise. A Fit Si or RS (I'd rather they keep the Si badge for civics) would be awesome for sure.
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When the 8th gen Si was announced, everyone initially hated it. Same with the 9th gen. Eventually these cars still sold within Honda's expected figures for a low volume trim, I think the 10th gen Si will do just fine. I am sad to see the high RPM, frenetic sounding engine is no longer what the Si is about anymore though.

I am happy that the suspension system got a lot of love and even some of the stiffer bushings the Type-R has, coupled with the sub 2900lb curb weight, this will be a fun toss-able car.

Though I can really see how the die-hard fans are disappointed with the HP figures, luckily for me, I don't care about getting to the next red light before the car next to me lol.

 

[bobindy]

Well, there's your Hatch bumpers on the Sedan.

Looks horrible. Ugh.

 

[Concept_cody]

to quote our president. "Sad."

 

[NorthernEX-T]

Driving an Si isn't about beating everyone else stoplight-to-stoplight,

It's not?! Common.... we all how how Si drivers are for the most part..

 

[kshawn]

So same engine? Just tuned...

 

[GSquared]

The most interesting thing to me is the remote start with the 6MT.

According to the official Honda Reveal: http://hondanews.com/honda-automobi...coupe-and-sedan-in-dynamic-global-debut-video

The remote start bullet point is not listed like it is here.

 

[NoelPR]

Why are people acting disappointed when we knew this is what is was going to be. All everyone seems to care about is HP. The SI was never about HP. It has always been about driver engagement and chassis dynamics. Anyone can chuck a ton of HP into a car, but to make it work is another story. Acura offered the TSX with a V6 because people are stat sheet crazed and for the normal highway cruiser, yes the extra straight line power is nice, but as soon as you put the car into a corner, the car felt nose heavy and the I4 was much more enjoyable. It felt lighter on its feet and much more balanced. If you really need more power than look elsewhere

Here is the thing. Until isn't posted from a Honda official site I wont take the rumors numbers seriously. Many people out there do the same. This is why so many are acting now with the officially unveiled numbers.

Definitely people will look elsewhere.

 

[b0j4ngl35]

It's not?! Common.... we all how how Si drivers are for the most part..

I mean...I beat on mine like I stole it when I had my Mugen Si, so you're not wrong

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