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Featured Civic Type R Takes 3rd in 2018 Road & Track Performance Car of the Year

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    Great showing for the Civic Type R in this year's 2018 Road & Track Performance Car of the Year competition!

    Full competition results: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a13132962/2018-performance-car-of-the-year/

    It’d be a lie to say that no one missed the old company vibe, the spirit of the Integra and the S2000. But good Lord, does the Type R hustle. And above all, it shares one thing with the cars of the old-school Big H: Calm and comfortable when you’re cruising, a firecracker when you lean into it. The taillights wag on trailed brake, and the Civic will launch over track curbs or road chuckholes with your foot to the floor, the helical limited-slip clawing away, the car not even remotely slowing down. Topping it all off, no Civic ever had a brake pedal this communicative or effective—the enormous Brembo calipers behind the front wheels virtually evaporate speed.

    Alone in this group, the Honda begs you to get angry. But it’s also a fully finished piece, capable and resolved at once. “Magic,” Wolfkill said, “and the handling is standout.” Okulski was shocked: “No torque steer. How?”

    You forgive the styling, that obnoxious wing, the gaudy interior. The Honda wants to be hammered on for days, and unlike with the Alfa or the Audi, you’re thrilled to comply. —Sam Smith


    THE FINALISTS

    And then there were four—the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE, Honda Civic Type R, Lexus LC 500, and McLaren 720S. You’d be hard-pressed to choose a broader-spectrum anti-biotic for creeping automotive disinterest, yet at the core, each of these cars expresses a similarly uncompromising approach to performance-focused engineering. They’re loaded with things that you only notice after long examination: the heavy-duty steering knuckles on the Civic, the combination knob/switch used by the Lexus to adjust the shocks and relax the stability control, the knee bolstering on the Camaro’s center console, the way the TFT dashboard on the McLaren Fosbury-flops out of the way for unimpeded vision on a racetrack. You can have opinions about the Civic’s aero package or the McLaren’s socketed headlamps, but you can’t say that our final four don’t bring their A game in nearly every aspect that matters to a driver.

    In years past, the PCOTY voting process has taken as long as four hours, often laced with impassioned speeches, tense disagreements, and uncomfortable bouts of soul-searching. Not this time. A single round of discussion and voting took a fraction of that. Our eight editors each assigned a ranking to the finalists. The rankings were added and averaged to provide the final results. Only two cars received first-place votes, and the mathematical distance between each place turned out to be unequivocal.

    The third spot goes to the Civic Type R. Let’s get the low points out of the way in a hurry: The engine rarely feels fast and never comes across as particularly furious, the steering can seem inert, and the visual package is, shall we say, controversial. Chilton was properly cutting: “Even if it was quicker than the AMG, I couldn’t forgive those fake bumper grilles.”

    None of those problems will stop the Type R from sporting additional-dealer-markup stickers for some time to come, however, because this is a Honda truly worthy of the coveted red badge.

    In a market segment where some competitors are gelded by crossover-grade all-wheel drive and a ’77 Cutlass Supreme’s worth of curb weight, the Civic shines despite, and by virtue of, its fealty to the original hot-hatch template. “It possesses the unique ability to be driven like a front-wheel-drive car when it’s convenient—back it into turns under trail braking to get it rotated—without suffering from typical front-drive hang-ups under acceleration,” said Wolfkill. And the almost cosplay-like dedication to Nineties Ginza chic, while not everyone’s taste, will create a lot of fanatics and inspire plenty of tattoos. Most important, it’s a reminder that Honda still cares about its enthusiast owners.

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    Holy crap the photo with the 2 wheels in the air is very nice. Any idea how anyone can order a large print?
     
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    Great outcome for the CTR! What a stacked lineup that is!

    720s is just amazing.
     
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    This says it all. Civic R is less than 50% of the cost of the next car in the lineup and still finished 3rd out of 10. Great job by Honda.

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    That is a 1st place win for Honda in my book! I wonder by Ford or VW didn't enter in the RS or GTI, respectively? Think it has anything to do with reliability issues?
     
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    Not really how the comparison works. They take any newly released cars for the calendar year and then pick a winner from that bunch. The Golf R and RS would have been in previous years' comparisons...but looking back at the last few they didn't even get a mention.

    I'd chalk it up to either lack of availability/scheduling or they didn't make enough of an impression for R&T staff(doubtful). Something to note is that the last time there were any sport compacts was back in the 2015 edition. The newly released MK7 GTI and the 'new' WRX STI...but neither made it to the finalists round. Crazy to believe this was 3 whole years ago....

    Anyway, 3rd place for the CTR over the Lexus was a surprise since a lot of the auto journo world seems to be in love with it. I'm just happy that our hot rodded family hatchback is even in the conversation with any of the other entries here...seriously the price and power difference is huge yet this car is still more 'desirable' to drive hard+on the daily vs a Quadrifoglio or a TTRS...what a time to be an enthusiast...
     
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    The R&T guys clearly thought highly of the CTR, but it did not really rank third in this shootout in any meaningful way - remember the cars first competed within a small class, and then the class winners were ranked.

    If a boxing tournament had four weight divisions, and you then ranked the 4 divisional winners in the same way as was done in this shootout, nobody could reasonably claim that the winner of say the flyweight division was a better boxer in any absolute sense than the guy who came second in the heavyweight division; the flyweight would not likely last a round against the heavyweight.

    If the CTR had competed directly against say the AMG GT R or the 911 GT3. does anyone seriously think it would have been the editors' preference? Of course one can argue that such a comparison is rather beside the point given the pricing differentials, but that is a separate consideration.
     
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    Like I said before, any list in performance vehicle where the Type R is even LISTED is a HUGE deal considering A, price point and B, the set up(FWD).

    To be thought of THIS highly is absolutely insane.
     
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    Looking at the methodology R&T used, CTR beat Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio, Audi TT RS in the wildcard category and then beat Lexus LC500 (winner of the grand tourer category) in the final thereby beating Bentley Continental Supersports which had lost to Lexus LC500. So even if all remaining cars beat CTR in this evaluation, it will still finish 6th which is a decent accomplishment because all other cars are at least twice as expensive as CTR.
     
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    Seeing also that it is a first time car in the US gives it the status to compete with other high end, long time performance models.
     
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    This once again highlights my observation of the CTR:

    The CTR is a really hot model who dresses a bit on the tacky side but is still relatively low-maintenance. It wears you out something awesome, never leaves you wanting for much and is always ready to take you on another hot and wild ride. You still notice the other models, but you doubt that the grass is really any greener on the other side of the fence.
     
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    YES!!!!! I knew it will perform well:thumbsup: Wow! can you guys imagine the ADM now, that this article is out? :popcorn:
     
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    Maybe, but not as much hype as when it set the 'ring record.
     
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    Yes, but this is"real world" comparisons...I'm actually more hype about this than the 'ring record. Still, as soon as we took deliveries of our CTRs, we knew they were special even after only the first miles. Now this article just proved it! :)
     
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