1. Guest, see the CivicX Forum Rules and User Agreement before posting.  After reading click here to dismiss this notice →

Featured 2017 1.5 MT Dyno Results

Discussion in 'Engine / Exhaust / Transmission / Tuning' started by Hondata, Nov 28, 2016.



  1. Hondata

    Hondata Hondata Elite Sponsor

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2015
    Posts:
    117
    Featured Threads:
    6
    Thanked:
    440
    Occupation:
    Engineers
    Location:
    Torrance California
    Home Page:
    Car(s):
    06 Si, 12 Si
    Garage Profiles:
    1
    We've just dynoed a 2017 1.5 MT 4 door Civic, and the results are very promising. The car was completely stock with 400 miles on the odometer.

    On 87 octane this car made 190 hp and 190 lb-ft of torque. We were a little surprised so we compared this to our 2012 Civic Si.





    CIvic 17 MT stock.gif

    You can see the Si makes more power at the top of the rev range but the 1.5 turbo makes more power and torque from 2000-5900 rpm.

    Civic 17 MT vs 12 Si.gif
     
    vwpiper, lunarsilver, josby and 17 others thanked this.
  2. Civics4Ever

    Civics4Ever Ralley Red EXT

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2016
    Posts:
    556
    Thanked:
    394
    Occupation:
    Swimming pool tech
    Location:
    Chicago
    Car(s):
    97 civic, 99 civic, 16 civic
    Impressive!
     
    The_Fenix_2.0 thanked this.
  3. omigulay

    omigulay Senior Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2016
    Posts:
    150
    Thanked:
    78
    Location:
    Vancouver, Canada
    Car(s):
    2017 Civic Sport hatchback
    Interesting... the 9th gen honda accord were apparently underrated from Honda as well. That's quite a difference, making 190whp compared to 174bhp.

    NVM...TOV stated that dynojet is rated close to the crank and not whp.

    http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=1299354
     
  4. Leetcivx Senior Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2016
    Posts:
    153
    Thanked:
    148
    Location:
    Lehigh valley
    Car(s):
    Civic ex-t
    So does this mean that the 190hp CRV is the exact same setup as the civic? I know it's the same hardware, but thought maybe a different tune for a little more power.
     
    ElpacoSV and The_Fenix_2.0 thanked this.
  5. HondaSean Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Posts:
    23
    Thanked:
    21
    Location:
    California
    Car(s):
    2013 Honda Accord EX
    Interesting. I'm curious if the Sport manual actually makes any more HP or not.
     
  6. dominican Senior Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2016
    Posts:
    122
    Thanked:
    96
    Location:
    New York
    Car(s):
    1997 Honda Prelude, 2002 Honda S2000, 2011 BMW 335d, 2017 Honda Civic Hatch WOP Sport M/T
    Garage Profiles:
    1
    Not surprised here, the motor feels STRONG.
     
  7. LoveToDrive Senior Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2016
    Posts:
    176
    Thanked:
    153
    Location:
    CT
    Car(s):
    2016 LX MT, 2015 Si (RIP)
    Huh, interesting, and pretty exciting, actually. Somewhat bittersweet. The character of Honda has officially changed.
     
    The_Fenix_2.0 thanked this.
  8. Design Senior Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2015
    Posts:
    1,542
    Thanked:
    1,069
    Location:
    Southern California
    Car(s):
    09 MS3
    Great results. It's important to note this was done on the same Dynapack as my MS3. Church's readings have about a 4-6% drivetrain loss but inflate slightly due to the absence of rotational mass from the front wheels. It's incredibly accurate (especially alongside the Si) but the results are not true WHP.

    Jeff and Shawn added some comments as well, to help explain the results. Take them for what they're worth:

     
  9. DarkLight

    DarkLight Senior Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2016
    Posts:
    463
    Thanked:
    379
    Location:
    LA
    Car(s):
    Civic-2016 LX 6MT
    These numbers are definitely "generous." Put that thing on a real dyno like a Mustang or Dyno Dynamics then see what it gets.
     
  10. nathanzachary Senior Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2015
    Posts:
    105
    Thanked:
    48
    Location:
    US
    Car(s):
    2017 Civic EX-T 6MT, 2004 Integra Type-R
    Garage Profiles:
    1
    Nice information (as always) from Hondata. I put in my order for a 2017 EX-T 6MT early last week, and am hoping for either a January or February 2017 delivery date.
     
    The_Fenix_2.0 thanked this.
  11. blubarracuda Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2016
    Posts:
    7
    Thanked:
    1
    Location:
    Los Angeles/Orange County
    Car(s):
    2017 CIVIC EX HATCHBACK
    Excuse my ignorance, but does this mean the CVT 1.5 Turbos are underrated as well? Could the MT transmission increase horsepower/torque OR could the MT transmission be easier to Dyno accurately?
     
    The_Fenix_2.0 thanked this.
  12. OP
    Hondata

    Hondata Hondata Elite Sponsor

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2015
    Posts:
    117
    Featured Threads:
    6
    Thanked:
    440
    Occupation:
    Engineers
    Location:
    Torrance California
    Home Page:
    Car(s):
    06 Si, 12 Si
    Garage Profiles:
    1
    Yes, the CVT is also under-rated, and
    yes the MT is far, far easier to dyno accurately, and
    yes the MT will have less drivetrain loss than the CVT.

    But the CVT has the advantage that it is always much closer to the correct gear for on-road performance and it has the advantage that it gets to the turbo spool RPM point faster.
     
  13. Design Senior Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2015
    Posts:
    1,542
    Thanked:
    1,069
    Location:
    Southern California
    Car(s):
    09 MS3
    That's fair. But it's important to note that they compare the baseline of a stock Civic Si. From there we can estimate actual WHP, give or take a few, which is around 155.
     
    The_Fenix_2.0 thanked this.
  14. NorthernEX-T

    NorthernEX-T Senior Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2016
    Posts:
    2,902
    Featured Threads:
    1
    Thanked:
    2,628
    Occupation:
    Wind Technician
    Location:
    ON, Canada
    Car(s):
    16 EX-T
    I'd love to race a 6mt. My ext in L is a rocket.. it's like a snowmobile lol, all the pull up top and it just doesn't stop :headbang: I'll take my Type R CVT please :thumbsup:
     
    JermLloyd, SilverGhost, mdamania and 8 others thanked this.
  15. Eddie Senior Member

    Rank:
    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2015
    Posts:
    633
    Featured Threads:
    4
    Thanked:
    1,081
    Location:
    NJ
    Car(s):
    2014 Pilot, 08 Civic Si
    NO lol
     
    Sweet Cheeks, Xyrex, Akinari and 4 others thanked this.
Loading...
Similar Threads Forum Date
Recommendations for Drilled Brake Rotors for 2017 Civic Hatchback? Suspension / Brakes / Chassis Yesterday at 1:33 AM
2017 Hatchback rear door protection General 10th Gen Discussions Monday at 11:08 PM
Looking for 2016-2017 Touring Rims Wheels / Tires Monday at 2:14 PM
Hidden Features/Quirks you did not know about the Honda 2017 Civic General 10th Gen Discussions Monday at 4:00 AM
2017 Civic Type R Sets 7:43.80 FWD Nurburgring Record! [Video] Civic Type R Forum (10th Gen) Monday at 3:15 AM
2017 Hatchback Sport: Has anyone lowered it? General 10th Gen Discussions Sunday at 10:30 AM

Share This Page