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Featured 2017 1.5 MT Dyno Results

Discussion in 'Engine / Exhaust / Transmission / Tuning' started by Hondata, Nov 28, 2016.



  1. Hondata

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    We've just dynoed a 2017 1.5 MT 4 door Civic, and the results are very promising. The car was completely stock with 400 miles on the odometer.

    On 87 octane this car made 190 hp and 190 lb-ft of torque. We were a little surprised so we compared this to our 2012 Civic Si.





    CIvic 17 MT stock.gif

    You can see the Si makes more power at the top of the rev range but the 1.5 turbo makes more power and torque from 2000-5900 rpm.

    Civic 17 MT vs 12 Si.gif
     
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    Impressive!
     
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    Interesting... the 9th gen honda accord were apparently underrated from Honda as well. That's quite a difference, making 190whp compared to 174bhp.

    NVM...TOV stated that dynojet is rated close to the crank and not whp.

    http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=1299354
     
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    So does this mean that the 190hp CRV is the exact same setup as the civic? I know it's the same hardware, but thought maybe a different tune for a little more power.
     
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    Interesting. I'm curious if the Sport manual actually makes any more HP or not.
     
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    Not surprised here, the motor feels STRONG.
     
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    Huh, interesting, and pretty exciting, actually. Somewhat bittersweet. The character of Honda has officially changed.
     
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    Great results. It's important to note this was done on the same Dynapack as my MS3. Church's readings have about a 4-6% drivetrain loss but inflate slightly due to the absence of rotational mass from the front wheels. It's incredibly accurate (especially alongside the Si) but the results are not true WHP.

    Jeff and Shawn added some comments as well, to help explain the results. Take them for what they're worth:

     
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    These numbers are definitely "generous." Put that thing on a real dyno like a Mustang or Dyno Dynamics then see what it gets.
     
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    Nice information (as always) from Hondata. I put in my order for a 2017 EX-T 6MT early last week, and am hoping for either a January or February 2017 delivery date.
     
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    Excuse my ignorance, but does this mean the CVT 1.5 Turbos are underrated as well? Could the MT transmission increase horsepower/torque OR could the MT transmission be easier to Dyno accurately?
     
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    Yes, the CVT is also under-rated, and
    yes the MT is far, far easier to dyno accurately, and
    yes the MT will have less drivetrain loss than the CVT.

    But the CVT has the advantage that it is always much closer to the correct gear for on-road performance and it has the advantage that it gets to the turbo spool RPM point faster.
     
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    That's fair. But it's important to note that they compare the baseline of a stock Civic Si. From there we can estimate actual WHP, give or take a few, which is around 155.
     
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    I'd love to race a 6mt. My ext in L is a rocket.. it's like a snowmobile lol, all the pull up top and it just doesn't stop :headbang: I'll take my Type R CVT please :thumbsup:
     
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    NO lol
     
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