axreyb
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Surprised the Golf comparison has not been started yet. I will most likely be buying a '16 Civic LX 6spd manual (Canadian version) in March. I have some cargo and passenger space requirements so I am also crossing with the Mazda 3 hatch and Golf Sportwagen (Mazda 3 sedan and regular Golf are a bit too small). Took a Golf 5spd manual out for spin yesterday. Pretty well as advertised in most reviews - it drives great and is a nice car. Biggest difference compared to the 2.0L Civic and Mazda 3 2.0L is the midrange torque from the turbo engine. It gets up and goes, and it barely revs 2100rpm in 5th at 120 pm/h (75 mph) whereas the Civic is turning 2900rpm at that speed.
These 3 cars (Civic 2.0L, Mazda 3 2.0L, Golf 1.8T all manual trans) are so close in feature content, how they drive, interior quality, etc. These are great driving cars for around the $20K mark. However, the VW is almost immediately eliminated for me. I plan to keep this car for the long haul and hand down to my daughter, so the VW reliability history scares me. I decided to peruse the VW forums to see how things look these days. First post I stumble upon is a guy with an oil leak on his new Golf 1.8 TSI with barely 2000 miles on the odo. First response is "congratulations on your first rear main seal (rms) leak". Ugh. I search the net and this seems relatively common, among other significant issues. I realize forums concentrate these experiences, but compared relative to Honda and Mazda forums there is a lot more noise.
These 3 cars (Civic 2.0L, Mazda 3 2.0L, Golf 1.8T all manual trans) are so close in feature content, how they drive, interior quality, etc. These are great driving cars for around the $20K mark. However, the VW is almost immediately eliminated for me. I plan to keep this car for the long haul and hand down to my daughter, so the VW reliability history scares me. I decided to peruse the VW forums to see how things look these days. First post I stumble upon is a guy with an oil leak on his new Golf 1.8 TSI with barely 2000 miles on the odo. First response is "congratulations on your first rear main seal (rms) leak". Ugh. I search the net and this seems relatively common, among other significant issues. I realize forums concentrate these experiences, but compared relative to Honda and Mazda forums there is a lot more noise.
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