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We had some time to really start pushing things with @KTuner today on our shop Si and were very pleased with the results. Denis worked his magic with the help of @VitViper and managed to get some consistent 255 whp and 315 ft/lb tq (later we managed to squeeze out some 265 whp and 324 tq) runs on e25 blend fuel through our catted downpipe. Not too shabby for a 1.5L and thumb sized turbine! We expect to see higher numbers on with a catless downpipe, higher octane fuel and more time getting used to this platform.


Mods: PRL catted DP/FP combo, PRL FMIC, PRL Cobra CA I and E25 blend fuel.


The exhaust is dropped on this video because we wanted to see if the stock exhaust was a restriction and saw 0 gains.

 


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We had some time to really start pushing things with @KTuner today on our shop Si and were very pleased with the results. Denis worked his magic with the help of @VitViper and managed to get some consistent 255 whp and 315 ft/lb tq (later we managed to squeeze out some 265 whp and 324 tq) runs on e25 blend fuel through our catted downpipe. Not too shabby for a 1.5L and thumb sized turbine! We expect to see higher numbers on with a catless downpipe, higher octane fuel and more time getting used to this platform.


Mods: PRL catted DP/FP combo, PRL FMIC, PRL Cobra CA I and E25 blend fuel.


The exhaust is dropped on this video because we wanted to see if the stock exhaust was a restriction and saw 0 gains.

Most of the time when you completely remove an exhaust there will be a loss of power, with no change at all then maybe a smoother flowing exhaust will make a few HP where removing it is a waste.......need to try some aftermarket exhausts when they arrive as the OEM is 2 inch.....just what I've run into in the past with other vehicles, this platform may be different
 

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We had some time to really start pushing things with @KTuner today on our shop Si and were very pleased with the results. Denis worked his magic with the help of @VitViper and managed to get some consistent 255 whp and 315 ft/lb tq (later we managed to squeeze out some 265 whp and 324 tq) runs on e25 blend fuel through our catted downpipe. Not too shabby for a 1.5L and thumb sized turbine! We expect to see higher numbers on with a catless downpipe, higher octane fuel and more time getting used to this platform.


Mods: PRL catted DP/FP combo, PRL FMIC, PRL Cobra CA I and E25 blend fuel.


The exhaust is dropped on this video because we wanted to see if the stock exhaust was a restriction and saw 0 gains.

This is awesome. For future parts tests, would it be possible to do some pulls with and without ethanol mixed fuel? I'm definitely planning on upgrading with at least the FMIC and the Downpipe (w/ an e-Tune), but since this will be my daily driver and E85 is not readily available in my area, I'll likely just be running standard 93 octane. As psyched as I get seeing huge numbers like this, I'm also left wondering how much of this impact I'll end up seeing running 93.
 
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Most of the time when you completely remove an exhaust there will be a loss of power, with no change at all then maybe a smoother flowing exhaust will make a few HP where removing it is a waste.......need to try some aftermarket exhausts when they arrive as the OEM is 2 inch.....just what I've run into in the past with other vehicles, this platform may be different
Typically on a N/A platform this plays a big part, but isn't always the case on F/I setups. Post-turbine housing backpressure means restriction on a turbocharger. Ideally, pre-turbine gas is intended to be carried as much as possible, which is where turbine housing design comes into play. The larger the area of post-turbine exhaust, the more room exhaust gas has to expand. Hot gas has only one goal, to expand as quickly as possible. Energy dissipates as exhaust gas expands, so a larger exhaust will be more favorable. A larger diameter exit out of the turbine side, or downpipe, allows exhaust gas to exit properly at the high rate of speed, expansion and turbulance that comes out of the turbine. We are basically creating a pressure drop.

This platform is proving to be a bit different than others, at least in terms of post-cat/front-pipe restriction. We were shocked that there weren't at least some recordable gains. However, given the small displacement and turbine, it makes sense that the factory exhaust piping is not restrictive here. However, an upgraded turbocharger might be another story.
 
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This is awesome. For future parts tests, would it be possible to do some pulls with and without ethanol mixed fuel? I'm definitely planning on upgrading with at least the FMIC and the Downpipe (w/ an e-Tune), but since this will be my daily driver and E85 is not readily available in my area, I'll likely just be running standard 93 octane. As psyched as I get seeing huge numbers like this, I'm also left wondering how much of this impact I'll end up seeing running 93.
On 93 octane we acheived 235-240 whp and 290-295 tq, which isn't bad given the fact we still have our cat on the car. However, we were having some difficulty fighting knock control that limited overall power. If we can get past this the car has more left on the table. We mixed in some e85 to figure out whether or not fueling would improve knock control, which it did.
 


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Excuse the cellphone quality here, but incase anybody missed, we managed to squeeze out 280 whp and 335+ ft/lbs tq out of our shop car the other day! Thats 100 hp in gains and well over 100 ft/lbs tq gains over stock with only a few simply bolt-ons and tuning on e25/e30 fuel blend! 100 whp in a car that comes with only 180 whp is a night-and-day difference!

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  • PRL Catless DP/FP
  • PRL CAI System
  • PRL FMIC Kit
  • Clutch Masters FX400 6-Puck, Rigid Disc Clutch
  • @KTuner V2
  • Custom Tuning via @VitViper and Denis Howell at PRL Motorsports
We dumped that cat-back exhaust from the front pipe in the video to see if there were any gains over running a full stock exhaust... To our amazement, there was not! This car pumped out repetive back-to-back 280/279 whp pulls with and without the factory exhaust. The factory exhaust system has showed to flow extremely well for this little 1.5L turbo and tiny turbine so far. With that being said, power gains from going cat-back exhaust will not be notable whatsoever on sub-300whp setups for this platform.

We switched from our catted downpipe to a catless and picked up roughly a 5-7 hp gain. The knock control value actually dropped down to only 49%, which helped us free up some nice power. To simplify, 49% knock control value means that our parts, including our catted downpipe, helped this car pick up more efficiency than we have ever seen before!

To reiterate, this car has nothing special done to it and this isn't a marketing ploy. Any 1.5T 6MT Civic customer can expect to see identical gains by doing $2,500 - $3,000 in mods. :)
 
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any plans for a DIY open catchcan kit?
Yes, a catch can is in the works!
However, we are wrapping up some of our latest product developement on the Type R!

Our CVT trans cooler kit is availiable now and ready to ship after significant testing!
Our Cobra intakes are in production were making the MAF housings as i type and they will be going to annodizing later next week!
Our 1.5t intercooler kits are in the final stages of production!
Our welders are cranking out dp/front pipe combos daily to keep up with the demand!

Thank you to all the consumers and support thus far! We are working hard and cannot wait to show you what is next for these 10 gens from us!
(keep in mind we are a small operation and growing)
 

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Yes, a catch can is in the works!
However, we are wrapping up some of our latest product developement on the Type R!

Our CVT trans cooler kit is availiable now and ready to ship after significant testing!
Our Cobra intakes are in production were making the MAF housings as i type and they will be going to annodizing later next week!
Our 1.5t intercooler kits are in the final stages of production!
Our welders are cranking out dp/front pipe combos daily to keep up with the demand!

Thank you to all the consumers and support thus far! We are working hard and cannot wait to show you what is next for these 10 gens from us!
(keep in mind we are a small operation and growing)
The wait is sooooo totally worth it! Love what you guys do...can't wait for my Cobra to be delivered and next spring looking to spring for your FMIC and downpipe\frontpipe!
 


 


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